Wooden Coaster Triangular Supports - V2 out!

Phil · 01-08-2006, 12:56 PM

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These triangle supports were in RCT2, but were left out of RCT3. I have created them for RCT3, along with some other pieces, to make your wooden coasters look much more realistic. Here is a lsit of what is contained in the pack:

Box - To put box supports udnernetah the triangle piece.
Triangle - The main part of this.
Smaller Box - To fit in those little gaps.
Wall - To cover up the awful gaps that the coaster leaves when it passes directly udnerneath another piece of coaster.
Small wall - A smaller version of the Wall.
Footer - A concrete footer for the supports to rest on.

For those that are lazy and don't want to read the rest, the scenery is under the generic category and is medium sized scenery.

Download available at Mods To The Max You must register & be logged in to access the downloads section.

^Triangular Supports V2.

RCT-Online.com · 01-08-2006, 01:21 PM

Thanks, It´s great!

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ForceWorks · 01-08-2006, 01:49 PM

i am assuming this gets placed where all other custom scenery gets placed?
under the themed folder?

Phil · 01-08-2006, 01:57 PM

It is a medium scenery piece. Found udner general theming.

infiniteblue · 01-08-2006, 02:05 PM

Good job! This will definitely come in handy for woodies.

snakegb · 01-08-2006, 02:09 PM

Great Job,, this will come in handy I used it all the time in rct2 Thanks

Teirmose · 01-08-2006, 06:05 PM

Great job Froggee. Thank you for creating this component. I believe we will see alot of park builders posting pictures that contain this piece.

ForceWorks · 01-08-2006, 06:13 PM

will these only work on the 90 degree grid? or do we have some diagonal peices also for turns and helices?
sorry if this question is redundant i haven't had a chance to get in game and play around with these yet

wabigbear · 01-08-2006, 07:01 PM

WOW! That was fast Froggee! These turned out great, excellent job!

fathorse · 01-08-2006, 08:30 PM

Excellent, the texture is perfect, but I did find a problem

. The colors aren't dark enough, the triangular supports are kinda light compared to the coaster supports. Another question is will you be doing the diagonal pieces as well? And maybe a half support?

marnetmar · 01-08-2006, 09:32 PM

For those that don't want to use rapidshare, you can d/l froggee's support set Here

Phil · 01-08-2006, 09:54 PM

Thanks Marnetmar! (Ps. Will I have a page like other people? Not rushing you or anything.)

marnetmar · 01-08-2006, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Froggee

Thanks Marnetmar! (Ps. Will I have a page like other people? Not rushing you or anything.)

Yes you will, I just haven't had much time this weekend to work on it. I should be able to get it all done in the next couple of days for you.

-MoNtU · 01-08-2006, 10:04 PM

Great, just in time for my dueling woodies.

circleVision · 01-09-2006, 07:34 AM

Sweet. Thank you Froggee.

citytrader · 01-09-2006, 10:46 AM

We are not worthy...

Thank you for this!

super7 · 01-09-2006, 12:01 PM

Thanks for taking the time to make this much wanted piece of scenery.

Phil · 01-09-2006, 12:04 PM

Thanks for all the thanks! Lol :P

fathorse · 01-09-2006, 09:22 PM

I think I was overlooked in my message above. Any way to get these darker in-game?

Phil · 01-09-2006, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fathorse

I think I was overlooked in my message above. Any way to get these darker in-game?

I think I know how. *goes off and works*

Oh and sorry about overlooking your message. I remember reading it but I never replied. Do you have any other problems with the supports? Just want to iron out any sort of bugs.

Edit: I made my texture darker and then put the ACT file back in. Imported everything. So far so good. Get into game and no difference in darkness. I don't know how to change it, sorry.

ForceWorks · 01-09-2006, 09:43 PM

i dont' have any problems with their coloring, or their brightness
i would love to see if you could come up with a diagonal peice though
looking hte the supports in game, it should not be that hard to line them up cinsidering is it a flat face on a diagonal on just about everything you can use on the wooden coasters
any idea if you plan to tackle that task Froggee?
and can't thank you enought for these!!!!!!!

Phil · 01-09-2006, 09:51 PM

I may do diagonal ones I guess, but not right now.

ForceWorks · 01-09-2006, 09:56 PM

good to know, no pressure or worries if you don't though Froggee
i know what custom scenery takes, my exprience overwhelmed me, AND my brain, i won't undertake any of my own efforts for a long time
great work on these though!

Phil · 01-09-2006, 09:58 PM

It should be fairly easy. Just rotate the mesh and "offset" it a little bit (I might not even have to do that.) Then just double everything with the new mesh in the theme file.

super7 · 01-10-2006, 02:38 AM

I just tried out this piece and it is great. It really adds a lot to the wooden coasters. Especially the helix, where the game just displays the track floating in the air.

One thing though, it does not seem to have collision detection. If you have a track running against a tall hill and try to place this support against the tall hill above the lower track, the scenery ends up appearing like it is going right through the track instead of floating over the track as it did in RCT2. Is making a piece with collision detection just a matter of choosing that option in the scenery maker? If it is simple, would you be able to offer this piece with collision detection?

Thanks
Doug

blings · 01-10-2006, 08:07 AM

Oh, Yeah!! i want it!

Phil · 01-10-2006, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super7

I just tried out this piece and it is great. It really adds a lot to the wooden coasters. Especially the helix, where the game just displays the track floating in the air.

One thing though, it does not seem to have collision detection. If you have a track running against a tall hill and try to place this support against the tall hill above the lower track, the scenery ends up appearing like it is going right through the track instead of floating over the track as it did in RCT2. Is making a piece with collision detection just a matter of choosing that option in the scenery maker? If it is simple, would you be able to offer this piece with collision detection?

Thanks
Doug

The supports below are part of the actual model, they are always there underneath the ground. I have plans on how to fix this problem

and while I am there I'll do a diagonal I guess!

super7 · 01-10-2006, 01:17 PM

I think that the support just needs to have collision detection that they talk about on this 4m. Without collision detection, a piece of scenery can be built through a ride or through another piece of scenery. With collision detection, you cannot build a piece of scenery through anything else.

Right now, if you try to use the triangular support on a space where there is track, the support begins on the ground and goes up through the track.

If there was collision detection, the support would begin hovering over top of the track instead of on the ground like it did in RCT2. Did that make sense?

Phil · 01-10-2006, 01:26 PM

With collision detection on the object you'd have to have the very bottom of the supports over your coaster, meaning the triangular bit is way in the sky. It is all 1 mesh. The supports are all under the ground even if you only pull them up 1 square.

Turning on detection would solve nothing.

super7 · 01-10-2006, 02:46 PM

Case 1--Collision detection. One would not use the support if the height difference in the adjacent (side by side) tracks was less than the original support height.

Cast 2--Without collision detection. One would NEVER use the support with adjacent tracks because the lower track will appear like it is crashing through the support.

I find case 1 to be the better option because there are only sometimes that the support would not be used with adjacent tracks. In case 2, the support would never be used with adjacent tracks.

Is there another way to fix this so the coaster tracks do not "crash" through the support other than collision detection?

01-08-2006, 12:56 PM	#1
Phil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,428	Wooden Coaster Triangular Supports - V2 out! These triangle supports were in RCT2, but were left out of RCT3. I have created them for RCT3, along with some other pieces, to make your wooden coasters look much more realistic. Here is a lsit of what is contained in the pack: Box - To put box supports udnernetah the triangle piece. Triangle - The main part of this. Smaller Box - To fit in those little gaps. Wall - To cover up the awful gaps that the coaster leaves when it passes directly udnerneath another piece of coaster. Small wall - A smaller version of the Wall. Footer - A concrete footer for the supports to rest on. For those that are lazy and don't want to read the rest, the scenery is under the generic category and is medium sized scenery. Download available at Mods To The Max You must register & be logged in to access the downloads section. ^Triangular Supports V2. Last edited by marnetmar; 08-24-2006 at 10:45 PM. Reason: Fixed link

01-08-2006, 02:05 PM	#5
infiniteblue Cry some more!!! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,597	Good job! This will definitely come in handy for woodies. __________________ Serenity Shores: It's Back!

01-08-2006, 02:09 PM	#6
snakegb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: England Posts: 146	Great Job,, this will come in handy I used it all the time in rct2 Thanks __________________ AMD +4400 2x 2.2 ATI Raiden X1900XTX Gigabyte K8N Pro Sli Mainboard 2GB Corsair DDR P3200 320GB Western Digital SATA 2 Gigabyte 3DAurora Case Windows XP SP2

01-08-2006, 06:05 PM	#7
Teirmose Smile at others Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,683	Great job Froggee. Thank you for creating this component. I believe we will see alot of park builders posting pictures that contain this piece. __________________ Just remember that a picture is worth a thousand words, unless you're blind.

01-08-2006, 07:01 PM	#9
wabigbear Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 9,529	WOW! That was fast Froggee! These turned out great, excellent job! __________________ Will the last person leaving Atari please turn out the lights? Thanks for the great times everyone! Last edited by wabigbear; 01-09-2006 at 06:46 AM.

01-08-2006, 01:21 PM	#2
RCT-Online.com My #1 nickname is: flightsurf Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NRW / Germany Posts: 13	Thanks, It´s great! --------------------- http://www.RCT-Online.com - My Park - Independent Kingdom

01-08-2006, 01:49 PM	#3
ForceWorks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 273	i am assuming this gets placed where all other custom scenery gets placed? under the themed folder?

01-08-2006, 01:57 PM	#4
Phil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,428	It is a medium scenery piece. Found udner general theming.

01-08-2006, 06:13 PM	#8
ForceWorks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 273	will these only work on the 90 degree grid? or do we have some diagonal peices also for turns and helices? sorry if this question is redundant i haven't had a chance to get in game and play around with these yet

01-08-2006, 08:30 PM	#10
fathorse Now 40% more obese! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Near all the hawt chicks. Posts: 2,642	Excellent, the texture is perfect, but I did find a problem . The colors aren't dark enough, the triangular supports are kinda light compared to the coaster supports. Another question is will you be doing the diagonal pieces as well? And maybe a half support?

01-08-2006, 09:32 PM	#11
marnetmar Registered A_Hole Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kansas City,MO Posts: 7,643	For those that don't want to use rapidshare, you can d/l froggee's support set Here __________________ ModsToTheMax Atari Community Chat New Home

01-08-2006, 09:54 PM	#12
Phil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,428	Thanks Marnetmar! (Ps. Will I have a page like other people? Not rushing you or anything.)

01-08-2006, 10:04 PM	#14
-MoNtU critic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 3,591	Great, just in time for my dueling woodies. __________________ Haters gonna HATE

01-09-2006, 07:34 AM	#15
circleVision Disneylandonian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ZZYZX Road Posts: 735	Sweet. Thank you Froggee.

01-09-2006, 10:46 AM	#16
citytrader Resident Historical Consultant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 1,350	We are not worthy... Thank you for this!

01-09-2006, 12:01 PM	#17
super7 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73	Thanks for taking the time to make this much wanted piece of scenery.

01-09-2006, 12:04 PM	#18
Phil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,428	Thanks for all the thanks! Lol :P

01-09-2006, 09:22 PM	#19
fathorse Now 40% more obese! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Near all the hawt chicks. Posts: 2,642	I think I was overlooked in my message above. Any way to get these darker in-game?

01-09-2006, 09:43 PM	#21
ForceWorks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 273	i dont' have any problems with their coloring, or their brightness i would love to see if you could come up with a diagonal peice though looking hte the supports in game, it should not be that hard to line them up cinsidering is it a flat face on a diagonal on just about everything you can use on the wooden coasters any idea if you plan to tackle that task Froggee? and can't thank you enought for these!!!!!!!

01-09-2006, 09:51 PM	#22
Phil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,428	I may do diagonal ones I guess, but not right now.

01-09-2006, 09:56 PM	#23
ForceWorks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 273	good to know, no pressure or worries if you don't though Froggee i know what custom scenery takes, my exprience overwhelmed me, AND my brain, i won't undertake any of my own efforts for a long time great work on these though!

01-09-2006, 09:58 PM	#24
Phil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,428	It should be fairly easy. Just rotate the mesh and "offset" it a little bit (I might not even have to do that.) Then just double everything with the new mesh in the theme file.

01-10-2006, 02:38 AM	#25
super7 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73	I just tried out this piece and it is great. It really adds a lot to the wooden coasters. Especially the helix, where the game just displays the track floating in the air. One thing though, it does not seem to have collision detection. If you have a track running against a tall hill and try to place this support against the tall hill above the lower track, the scenery ends up appearing like it is going right through the track instead of floating over the track as it did in RCT2. Is making a piece with collision detection just a matter of choosing that option in the scenery maker? If it is simple, would you be able to offer this piece with collision detection? Thanks Doug

01-10-2006, 08:07 AM	#26
blings ... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 37	Oh, Yeah!! i want it!

01-10-2006, 01:17 PM	#28
super7 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73	I think that the support just needs to have collision detection that they talk about on this 4m. Without collision detection, a piece of scenery can be built through a ride or through another piece of scenery. With collision detection, you cannot build a piece of scenery through anything else. Right now, if you try to use the triangular support on a space where there is track, the support begins on the ground and goes up through the track. If there was collision detection, the support would begin hovering over top of the track instead of on the ground like it did in RCT2. Did that make sense?

01-10-2006, 01:26 PM	#29
Phil Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,428	With collision detection on the object you'd have to have the very bottom of the supports over your coaster, meaning the triangular bit is way in the sky. It is all 1 mesh. The supports are all under the ground even if you only pull them up 1 square. Turning on detection would solve nothing.

01-10-2006, 02:46 PM	#30
super7 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73	Case 1--Collision detection. One would not use the support if the height difference in the adjacent (side by side) tracks was less than the original support height. Cast 2--Without collision detection. One would NEVER use the support with adjacent tracks because the lower track will appear like it is crashing through the support. I find case 1 to be the better option because there are only sometimes that the support would not be used with adjacent tracks. In case 2, the support would never be used with adjacent tracks. Is there another way to fix this so the coaster tracks do not "crash" through the support other than collision detection?

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