Street Fighter threat

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

Who was your favorite new characters to the Street Fighter Series?...

It's hard to say that, as the newest characters to the series were added seven years ago. That hardly makes any of the characters "new."

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

...Looking at all the games, I would say that I really like Alex, but Rose takes the crown. I love her theme music and her shouting "soul spark,..deflect, deflect, soul spark!!!" A very good character. I have the Capcom Fighting Evolution now, and she was the one who helped me beat the end boss. That character was full of some spanking fight. Really could give Akuma a spanking too if you faced him. That's my opinion.

First of all, I'd like to say that Capcom Fighting Evolution sucks. It is easily the worst game I've ever seen Capcom put out. It's too easy, the sprites aren't consistent, and the characters roster, for the most part, is just garbage.

Secondly, any character can beat Akuma, game-wise. Street Fighter is usually pretty balanced, so you stand a fair chance, no matter what character you pick. Story-wise, Rose stands absolutely no chance against Akuma.

[Timothy2035]

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

It's hard to say that, as the newest characters to the series were added seven years ago. That hardly makes any of the characters "new."

Well I meant after Street Fighter II, as most the original cast kept returning, like Blanka, Vega, Balrog, Bison, Sagat, etc. When Super Street Fighter II showed up, we saw new characters like Tomohawk, Cammy, Fei Long, etc. Akuma showed up in SFII Turbo, but wasn't immediately playable. You had to work to unlock to fight him. If you go from this game,then you will see just how it tallys up.

First of all, I'd like to say that Capcom Fighting Evolution sucks. It is easily the worst game I've ever seen Capcom put out. It's too easy, the sprites aren't consistent, and the characters roster, for the most part, is just garbage.

But its still Street Fighter, but with new characters. I like using that dragon sometimes. Its really got a workable edge if you "use the force Luke (Death Star trench)". I also wanted to test Demitri of Darkstalkers against the Street Fighters. He is rather good. I got tired of Moridin from the Marvel series. I use Demitri second most. Jedah is sneaky to use, but Ryu can handle him though.

Story-wise, Rose stands absolutely no chance against Akuma.

Well Rose is a bit to work with, but that what makes victory sweet. lol. "Deflect!!!" "Deflect!!" "Yah!"

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

Well I meant after Street Fighter II...

My favorite addition to the series after Street Fighter II is Dudley. He is just too classy.

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

...But its still Street Fighter, but with new characters...

No, it isn't. It is supposed to be an all-stars-type cast of characters from various Capcom fighting games. The fact that most of those games are Street Fighter doesn't make it a Street Fighter game. The games included are Street Fighter II, Street Fighter Alpha, Street Fighter III, Darkstalkers, and Warzards.

[Timothy2035]

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

No, it isn't. It is supposed to be an all-stars-type cast of characters from various Capcom fighting games. The fact that most of those games are Street Fighter doesn't make it a Street Fighter game. The games included are Street Fighter II, Street Fighter Alpha, Street Fighter III, Darkstalkers, and Warzards.

Yeah but the game is featuring the mechanics of each universe and their particular fight engine, so its the fight engine against fight engine, keeping in tact the particulars for doing super moves exclusive to that game. Its cool though for the Darkstalker characters. Do you like Demitri the Vampire? Now I had hoped that maybe Frank ( the Monster) would have been included. Anakaris is okay, but we got to see a lot of him in the Marvel vs. Series.

[Fabien]

I don't particularly care for any of the Darkstalkers characters.

[Omid]

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

Yes, I do--every time.

...it's his role to become like akuma, so he will be equal, if not better...

That's only proven in Street Fighter Alpha 3.

...he is equal or better, he is the main character...

I beg to differ.

...declined...

I find that Dudley's combos are far superior to Balrog's. I also happen to like Dudley's design a great deal more than Balrog's. Balrog is just a stereotypical, dumb-as-rocks boxing guy. Dudley has true style, and that's why he's cool. Dudley is also a lot faster than Balrog, and I prefer speed over power.

...he wasn't that bad, he just lacked on speed...

No, Street Fighter III and Street Fighter Alpha 3 are two different games.

Street Fighter III
Street Fighter Alpha 3

Do you see the difference?

...yes i see the difference now, thanks...

Again, that fight takes place at the end of Street Fighter Alpha 3. After that, there is no telling which fighter is superior, or if they remain equal.

...it was proven that they were equals, it is afterall the last battle they engaged in and Ryu continued fighting but what about akuma?...

The fact remains that Akuma is the grandmaster of the school of ansatsuken before he fights Ryu, and Ryu fails to defeat Akuma. That means, at the end of Street Fighter III (the latest chapter in the Street Fighter tale,) Akuma remains the grandmaster of the school of ansatsuken. This fact is probably what leads most fans, including myself, to believe that Akuma is more powerful than Ryu.

...in street fighter III maybe, but it doesn't make sense that he is then still supperior then Ryu...

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

First of all, I'd like to say that Capcom Fighting Evolution sucks. It is easily the worst game I've ever seen Capcom put out. It's too easy, the sprites aren't consistent, and the characters roster, for the most part, is just garbage.

...i agree on this matter completely, do you own a psp?...

Secondly, any character can beat Akuma, game-wise. Street Fighter is usually pretty balanced, so you stand a fair chance, no matter what character you pick. Story-wise, Rose stands absolutely no chance against Akuma.

...rose is weak...

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

I also wanted to test Demitri of Darkstalkers against the Street Fighters. He is rather good. I got tired of Moridin from the Marvel series. I use Demitri second most. Jedah is sneaky to use, but Ryu can handle him though.

...i assume you have a psp... well good news for you, a sf psp game is confirmed by capcom... i got a psp aswell... personally i am not a fan of Darkstalkers, but does anyone of you know Guilty Gear XXX?... it will come on the PSP aswell...

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Omid

...it's his role to become like akuma, so he will be equal, if not better...

That is not true. Ryu rejects the killing intent after Street Fighter Alpha 3. Since Ryu and Akuma never fight after that, there is no telling which path leads to the greater power.

Originally Posted by Omid

...he is equal or better, he is the main character...

Just because Ryu is the main character, doesn't mean he's the strongest.

Originally Posted by Omid

...he wasn't that bad, he just lacked on speed...

I still think Balrog is pretty bad. He's a crappy design, and a crappy character.

Originally Posted by Omid

...yes i see the difference now, thanks...

You're welcome.

Originally Posted by Omid

...it was proven that they were equals, it is afterall the last battle they engaged in and Ryu continued fighting but what about akuma?...

Akuma trains in solitude on the island of Gokuento, after his battle with Ryu. He devises several new techniques as well, including Messatsu Gourasen and Kongou Kokuretsuzan.

There is no proof of either fighter being stronger. It's all a matter of opinion.

The point I'm trying to make is that just because Akuma and Ryu are equals in Street Fighter Alpha 3, does not mean they remain so for the rest of the series.

Akuma is the grandmaster before the fight, and Ryu does not defeat Akuma. Therefore, Akuma is still the grandmaster of ansatsuken, at the end of the series. This is fact, and cannot be disputed. I'm not saying it isn't possible for Ryu to be more powerful, I'm just saying he hasn't proven it.

Originally Posted by Omid

...in street fighter III maybe, but it doesn't make sense that he is then still supperior then Ryu...

How does it not make sense? Since Akuma and Ryu don't fight after SFA3, anything is possible.

Originally Posted by Omid

...i agree on this matter completely, do you own a psp?...

No, PSP is too expensive for a pauper like myself.

[Omid]

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

It's hard to say that, as the newest characters to the series were added seven years ago. That hardly makes any of the characters "new."

Rofl, that statement made me laugh

Originally Posted by dark sephiroth

I like the ryu one lol

I know what you mean, it has something unique. As of in the sense of that Gouki actually helped Ryu, but I think that Gouki and Ryu should be friends instead of sworn rivals. In all truth, I respect Gouki but he does not make sense for one bit. He kills his master own master.

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

That is not true. Ryu rejects the killing intent after Street Fighter Alpha 3. Since Ryu and Akuma never fight after that, there is no telling which path leads to the greater power.

So you think that Akuma is the strongest? It doesn't have to, perhaps Ryu will have an secret rage unlocked within him that will destroy Akuma for once and for all in Street Fighter 4 but then again I don't see Capcom doing anything good these days for Street Fighter as they just want to sell the old SF games. If only Capcom Japan still had its share of Street Fighter®, things for would look much better for the SF fans out there but of course not, Capcom USA just had to buy the full controll of Street Fighter and just extorse people with old SF games. I do just hope that one day, SF4 will come to the PS3 perhaps? It's just that Capcom is the only obstacle. I wonder what happened with the story writer of SF.

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

Just because Ryu is the main character, doesn't mean he's the strongest.

Ryu might not be the strongest but he should atleast be a match to Akuma, you make it sound like as if he was like Ken etc.

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

I still think Balrog is pretty bad. He's a crappy design, and a crappy character.

Lol, actually when you think of Balrog, it does make sense that they introduced him in SF. Look at the time of SF2, there was an sort of russian wrestler (well you can rate him as an wrestler), Honda with its Sumo ( also something which is noticable) etc. Balrog was a good fit in it. When you look at the fighting styles, you do see that it makes sense. Each has its own unique fighting style.

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

Akuma trains in solitude on the island of Gokuento, after his battle with Ryu. He devises several new techniques as well, including Messatsu Gourasen and Kongou Kokuretsuzan.

There is no proof of either fighter being stronger. It's all a matter of opinion.

Perhaps Akuma does devise those techniques but we know that Ryu is almost everytime training his styles and most probably gets stronger.

Correct.

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

The point I'm trying to make is that just because Akuma and Ryu are equals in Street Fighter Alpha 3, does not mean they remain so for the rest of the series.

It doesn't mean that they are the same but then again, they never fought each other again till death so we can't say that Akuma is stronger either. We have only that battle whereas we can rely on.

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

Akuma is the grandmaster before the fight, and Ryu does not defeat Akuma. Therefore, Akuma is still the grandmaster of ansatsuken, at the end of the series. This is fact, and cannot be disputed. I'm not saying it isn't possible for Ryu to be more powerful, I'm just saying he hasn't proven it.

No but Akuma apparently could not defeat Ryu island so what does that mean?

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

How does it not make sense? Since Akuma and Ryu don't fight after SFA3, anything is possible.

So you say we can rely on our own speculations of their victories?

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

No, PSP is too expensive for a pauper like myself.

Lol@ Pauper, I sold mine already.

[Dark Sephiroth]

WOW a thread on street fighter hold on I will go get my old sega genisis games and my snes ones aswell ohh hann on let me get my PSX lol and my M.U.G.E.N

[Tyleed17]

Finally, a street fighter thread.

[Omid]

Originally Posted by dark sephiroth

WOW a thread on street fighter hold on I will go get my old sega genisis games and my snes ones aswell ohh hann on let me get my PSX lol and my M.U.G.E.N

It was here all allong lol and wait a minute, can you post a SF Mugen game? That would be awesome.

Originally Posted by Tyleed17

Finally, a street fighter thread.

hehe yep.
So what do you think of Akuma?

[Timothy2035]

No I don't think a MUGEN game should be posted as it blends elements from games that were not licensed. Such as DBZ versus Street Fighter. This game was never officially licensed so the MUGEN itself could be illegal in the eyes of Atari.

I had brought it once before to the head admin, but I never heard back from the inquiry. At this time, don't post any videos of MUGEN gameplay. Just to be safe. I know its interesting. I have seen those myself.

[Tyleed17]

I think akuma is awesome, most of his moves are great but I could never do
his special move where he does his shadow slide to the opponent and beats the hell out of him/her while the screen is white.But Ken is my boy.

[Omid]

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

Capcom Fighting Evolution does count. It has characters in it from SF 3 and SF Alpha. They retain their exact fight styles and supers and techniques. They fight characters from Red Earth and Darkstalkers. Those characters keep their fight styles specific to those games as well. So its a SF title too, by Capcom.

Yet there are not all SF characters in it, yet there are several capcom chars in it (not only SF so it would be egocentric to call it a SF game as the others deserve to share the name too which is why it is named Capcom, not SF).

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

On the SF Anniversary Collection you get SF 3 Third Strike and SF 2 Turbo. Though I mostly just play SF 3.

SF 3 rules all.

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

Chun Li in SF 3 mops the floor with Ryu all the time.

You do know that she is in fact weaker than Ryu, right?

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

No I don't think a MUGEN game should be posted as it blends elements from games that were not licensed. Such as DBZ versus Street Fighter. This game was never officially licensed so the MUGEN itself could be illegal in the eyes of Atari.

You really can piss people off at times Timothy, in the old days with tontasku around, this was all legal and he had no problem with Mugen or anything like that. Also you could just post vids of DBZ to back up your arguments but I still think it is unfair that you do allow people to post Manga volumes on the forums while scenes of DBZ episodes are seen as illegal.

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

I had brought it once before to the head admin, but I never heard back from the inquiry. At this time, don't post any videos of MUGEN gameplay. Just to be safe. I know its interesting. I have seen those myself.

Even Dreadnaught seems much more reasonable then you, I wonder why he left.

Originally Posted by Tyleed17

I think akuma is awesome, most of his moves are great but I could never do his special move where he does his shadow slide to the opponent and beats the hell out of him/her while the screen is white.But Ken is my boy.

Lol that's his specialty.
Ken is good, in games but he doesn't take his trainings all to serious.

[Tyleed17]

Originally Posted by Omid

Yet there are not all SF characters in it, yet there are several capcom chars in it (not only SF so it would be egocentric to call it a SF game as the others deserve to share the name too which is why it is named Capcom, not SF).


SF 3 rules all.


You do know that she is in fact weaker than Ryu, right?


You really can piss people off at times Timothy, in the old days with tontasku around, this was all legal and he had no problem with Mugen or anything like that. Also you could just post vids of DBZ to back up your arguments but I still think it is unfair that you do allow people to post Manga volumes on the forums while scenes of DBZ episodes are seen as illegal.


Even Dreadnaught seems much more reasonable then you, I wonder why he left.


Lol that's his specialty.
Ken is good, in games but he doesn't take his trainings all to serious.

True, he does'nt take it as serious as ryu or akuma, but I've learned how to use him so that's how he became my fav.

[Dark Sephiroth]

Akuma was an bad as* in the games Ryu was annoying(Hydoking) and Chun-Li was a bi**h.

[Omid]

Originally Posted by Tyleed17

True, he does'nt take it as serious as ryu or akuma, but I've learned how to use him so that's how he became my fav.

Hehehe yes but which one is your favorite top 5 techniques?

Originally Posted by dark sephiroth

Akuma was an bad as* in the games Ryu was annoying(Hydoking) and Chun-Li was a bi**h.

Hehe yes he was, he killed his own master and he mastered the Dark Hadou (which means bad bussiness, we saw what it did to Ryu in Street Fighter Alpha 3).

[Timothy2035]

Originally Posted by Omid

Yet there are not all SF characters in it, yet there are several capcom chars in it (not only SF so it would be egocentric to call it a SF game as the others deserve to share the name too which is why it is named Capcom, not SF).

What it is in a sense is a MUGEN game. The game features 5 sets of fighters. From the games of Street Fighter 2, Street Fighter 3, Street Fighter Alpha, Darkstalkers and Red Earth. The characters are grouped together in their appropriate "sections". These characters keep the same fight style, counters, blocks, supers and techniques found in the games they came from. Nothing was altered like what you see in the Marvel vs. Capcom series to make the Capcom characters able to compete with the superheroes. So its Street Fighter from a different point of view. Nothing was taken away.

SF 3 rules all.

well it has its pluses for sure. I have a little rivalvry right now with a guy online who loves to use Sean and he is quite good. I use Elena against him and he gets upset when I mess up his perfectness often. We have a intense rivalry and will go for like 10 to 15 games straight trying to outdo one another. He is sooo good with Sean, but Elena mixes things up. Another character I like is Alex and Thelve.

You do know that she is in fact weaker than Ryu, right?

but doesn't mean she is less effective.

You really can piss people off at times Timothy, in the old days with tontasku around, this was all legal and he had no problem with Mugen or anything like that. Also you could just post vids of DBZ to back up your arguments but I still think it is unfair that you do allow people to post Manga volumes on the forums while scenes of DBZ episodes are seen as illegal.

I am sorry if I pissed you off. Its not my rule. I just want to make sure nobody gets into trouble. I will ask the head admin again about the MUGEN situation since he didn't let me know.

Even Dreadnaught seems much more reasonable then you, I wonder why he left.

Well its fine. Like I said, I want to be sure. Once I know for certain, I will let everyone know. I only try to be in the members best interests. I hope maybe you will see that.

Well anyways I am done in the thread and peace.

[blackman34]

i like yang in ts.......... its a shame he wasn't in cvs 2 as a playable character

[Tyleed17]

[quote]

Originally Posted by Omid

Hehehe yes but which one is your favorite top 5 techniques?

The shoruken, the hurricane kick(I don't know what he says), Hadoken,
Shorupa, and shinuken.(with Ken)

[areku]

my fav of all time is akuma

i've been playing sf since sf2 came out

ryu and ken are kool,but to me they were missing something

i tried to learn how to use vega but that went a flop

i was only good against the computer,but i was mediocore against other people,but ever since i saw that flash in ssft2 i haven't been the same since.

i practiced with him since then. Now i'm a feared opponent in my hometown

i want to enter a tourney someday to be recognize more worldwide

[Ssj Trunks]

Street Fighter is an awesome game, But its just like any other fighting game. Most if not all of the characters are "somewhat" equal so saying one isn't very good simply says you didn't take the time to use him to his best. I myself prefer using Ryu and Guile, But all the characters are just as good, Just have to use them right.

[Tyleed17]

True about some characters not being equal like Shin akuma, that
guy is a monster.

[Ssj Trunks]

Originally Posted by Tyleed17

True about some characters not being equal like Shin akuma, that
guy is a monster.

There are some characters that shine in the game, But none are unbeatable. They wouldn't have a character in the game that you couldn't win with.

[blackman34]

is it possible to do the spinning bird kik while jumping? i tried that so mant times in turbo and its just impossible i saw it in a demo and i was shoked. it seemed very hard to pull off beause u have to hold down for 2 seconds



sorry my c button dosen't work on this cpu im using

[Omid]

Originally Posted by blackman34

is it possible to do the spinning bird kick while jumping? i tried that so mant times in turbo and its just impossible

Yes it is possible to do so, atleast, it worked for me.

[blackman34]

wasnt the alpha series the earliest in the sf timeline?
cuz in the japanese version its called street fighter zero

[areku]

this is the is the timeline order

street fighter
street fighter alpha
street fighter alpha 2
street fighter alpha 3
(there's a gap where bison loses some powers)
street fighter 2
street fighter 2 champion ed
street fighter 2 turbo
super street fighter 2
super street fighter 2 turbo
street fighter 3 new generation
street fighter 3 2nd impact
street fighter 3 3rd strike

hope this clears anything up

[blackman34]

RYU'S A BEAST!




ahhhhhhhhhh...... the old skool days.....

was never a fan of charge characters