Is Buff Buu really a form of Majin Buu?

[Sayainpride4]

Is Buff Buu really a form? I personally think it's just a huge power raise. Cause a form should last atleast 2 minutes. Buu swells up, and then poofs down.

I am not saying this isen't a actual form, I would just like some proof. Cause I am mad confused!

[Huey Freeman]

skinny buu eats fat buu and instead of turning him fat he turns back to his second powerful form kid buu was actually the originally buu but when he ate that fat kai his powers decrease and became fat buu so yes buff buu is a form of the majin buu

[chronicdevil]

You see Buu in that form for longer than two minutes during the time after he absorbs South Kai up to when he absorbs Dai Kaioh.

[Mr.Studmuffin]

Originally Posted by Sayainpride4

Is Buff Buu really a form? I personally think it's just a huge power raise. Cause a form should last atleast 2 minutes. Buu swells up, and then poofs down.

In the anime, after Super Buu regresses to Kid buu, Supreme Kai talks about the history of Majin Buu. The story is told through a sequence of flashbacks; however, these flashbacks are exclusive to the anime "only." In the manga, the Buff Buu form is somewhat seen, but only as a middle-ground during Buu's regression back into Kid Buu. The full series of events (and Buu actually walking around in this stage) is seen only in the anime-exclusive flashback. That said, who knows how much time passed between South Kaioshin's and Dai Kaioshin's absorbtions.

I am not saying this isen't a actual form, I would just like some proof. Cause I am mad confused!

We know for a fact that Majin Buu killed two Kaioshin (Northern and Western), but managed to absorb two others before being sealed away by Supreme Kai. Kid Buu first absorbs the Southern Kaioshin, and transforms into an extremely "buff" version of himself (which increases his strength quite dramatically, apparently). Dai Kaioshin (the fat jolly Kai) is the next unlucky soul to fall victim to Majin Buu's Absorbtion attack. This absorbtion results in transforming Buff Buu into the Fat Majin Buu that's introduced at the outset of the Buu Saga.

[kayne]

this leads me to wonder how many kais are there?

theres the 4 king kais then a grand kai over them

then how many supreme kais? i know one for each corner of the universe so that makes 4 but is there a kai over them?

[Huey Freeman]

Originally Posted by chronicdevil

You see Buu in that form for longer than two minutes during the time after he absorbs South Kai up to when he absorbs Dai Kaioh.

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[Sayainpride4]

Originally Posted by Mr.Studmuffin

In the anime, after Super Buu regresses to Kid buu, Supreme Kai talks about the history of Majin Buu. The story is told through a sequence of flashbacks; however, these flashbacks are exclusive to the anime "only." In the manga, the Buff Buu form is somewhat seen, but only as a middle-ground during Buu's regression back into Kid Buu. The full series of events (and Buu actually walking around in this stage) is seen only in the anime-exclusive flashback. That said, who knows how much time passed between South Kaioshin's and Dai Kaioshin's absorbtions.



We know for a fact that Majin Buu killed two Kaioshin (Northern and Western), but managed to absorb two others before being sealed away by Supreme Kai. Kid Buu first absorbs the Southern Kaioshin, and transforms into an extremely "buff" version of himself (which increases his strength quite dramatically, apparently). Dai Kaioshin (the fat jolly Kai) is the next unlucky soul to fall victim to Majin Buu's Absorbtion attack. This absorbtion results in transforming Buff Buu into the Fat Majin Buu that's introduced at the outset of the Buu Saga.

Thanks, you're the only one that helped.

I understand everything now. Mega Buu is Buu with just the first Kai in him, then when he takes the fat Kai in, he changed to fat Buu. But then when Vegeta rips out the kais, he turns back into Mega Buu, then turns to Kid Buu right after.


Ahha! I got it now. This took me like 2 years to figure out, cause every idiot on these boards kept saying stuff that made no sense.


So the Buus powers are as the following: Super Buuhan, Super Buutenks, Mega Buu, Super Buu, Fat Buu, Kid Buu, Evil Buu, Mr. Buu.

If that is incorrect, then please correct me.

[Super Android]

Originally Posted by Sayainpride4

Thanks, you're the only one that helped.

I understand everything now. Mega Buu is Buu with just the first Kai in him, then when he takes the fat Kai in, he changed to fat Buu. But then when Vegeta rips out the kais, he turns back into Mega Buu, then turns to Kid Buu right after.


Ahha! I got it now. This took me like 2 years to figure out, cause every idiot on these boards kept saying stuff that made no sense.


So the Buus powers are as the following: Super Buuhan, Super Buutenks, Super Buucolo, Super Buu, Fat Buu, Mega Buu (Buff Buu), Kid Buu, Evil Buu, Mr. Buu.

If that is incorrect, then please correct me.

From strongest to weakest. That looks almost right to me, but you forgot one form and Mega Buu (Buff Buu) should be over there.

[Fabien]

Super Buu w/Gohan, Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed > Super Buu w/Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu > Fat Buu > Buff Buu > Kid Buu >= Evil Buu > Innocent Buu

[Sayainpride4]

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

Super Buu w/Gohan, Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed > Super Buu w/Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu > Fat Buu > Kid Buu >= Evil Buu > Innocent Buu

I have no idea where Buff Buu would go in there, because there's really no comparison factor given in the manga.

I would say Mega Buu would be above Super Buu. Cause at first Super Buu turned into Mega Buu, and Goku was like "At this rate he will be even stronger then before." But then losing South Kaioshin took effect, and he turned into Kid Buu.

So according to what we read in the manga, I am pretty sure Mega Buu (Buff Buu as you guys call him) is stronger then Super Buu.

[Fabien]

I thought about it, and it makes the most sense for Buff Buu to be between Fat Buu and Kid Buu. My reasoning for this is that, unless Dai Kaioshin has a negative power level, it's impossible for Fat Buu to be weaker than Buff Buu. As far as I know, it's impossible to have a negative power level, as a power level of zero (0) means you're dead. So, logically, since Buff Buu is Kid Buu with South Kaioshin absorbed, and Fat Buu is Kid Buu with Dai Kaioshin and South Kaioshin absorbed, then Fat Buu is more powerful (but more gentle) than Buff Buu, and Buff Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu.

Super Buu w/Gohan, Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed > Super Buu w/Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu > Fat Buu > Buff Buu > Kid Buu >= Evil Buu > Innocent Buu

[Super Android]

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

I thought about it, and it makes the most sense for Buff Buu to be between Fat Buu and Kid Buu. My reasoning for this is that, unless Dai Kaioshin has a negative power level, it's impossible for Fat Buu to be weaker than Buff Buu. As far as I know, it's impossible to have a negative power level, as a power level of zero (0) means you're dead. So, logically, since Buff Buu is Kid Buu with South Kaioshin absorbed, and Fat Buu is Kid Buu with Dai Kaioshin and South Kaioshin absorbed, then Fat Buu is more powerful (but more gentle) than Buff Buu, and Buff Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu.

Super Buu w/Gohan, Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu w/Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed > Super Buu w/Goten, Piccolo, and Trunks absorbed > Super Buu > Fat Buu > Buff Buu > Kid Buu >= Evil Buu > Innocent Buu

Precisely.

[Jin Kazama]

Originally Posted by kayne

this leads me to wonder how many kais are there?

theres the 4 king kais then a grand kai over them

then how many supreme kais? i know one for each corner of the universe so that makes 4 but is there a kai over them?

These are the Kais that watch over the parts of the Galaxy.

North(King) Kaoi, South Kaio, East Kaio, West Kaio, Grand Kaio(He watches over the universe)

these Watch over the part of the universe

North Kaioshin, South Kaioshin, East Kaioshin(Supreme Kai), West Kaioshin, Daio Kaioshin(He watches over everything, He is God), Elder Kaioshin(Supreme Kai, Rou Dai Kaioshin, Old Kai)

The reason East Kaioshin is called Supreme kai now is cause he is the only Kaioshin left. ANd took the place of the Supreme kai.
Elder kaishion was the Supreme Kai 15 Generations ago.

[APurpleCow]

I thought about it, and it makes the most sense for Buff Buu to be between Fat Buu and Kid Buu. My reasoning for this is that, unless Dai Kaioshin has a negative power level, it's impossible for Fat Buu to be weaker than Buff Buu.

You are forgetting where it was stated that Dai Kai weakened Buu because they were so opposite (Dai Kai=pure good, Kid Buu=pure evil). Therefore, Buff Buu is stronger then Super Buu, and maybe Super Buu 1.5.

[Super Android]

Originally Posted by APurpleCow

I thought about it, and it makes the most sense for Buff Buu to be between Fat Buu and Kid Buu. My reasoning for this is that, unless Dai Kaioshin has a negative power level, it's impossible for Fat Buu to be weaker than Buff Buu.

You are forgetting where it was stated that Dai Kai weakened Buu because they were so opposite (Dai Kai=pure good, Kid Buu=pure evil). Therefore, Buff Buu is stronger then Super Buu, and maybe Super Buu 1.5.

That only works with the show NOT the manga, so it's conflicting.

[APurpleCow]

No it doesn't. I read the manga and I had a scan of them saying that Dai Kai weakened Buu a while ago.

[Sayainpride4]

Originally Posted by APurpleCow

No it doesn't. I read the manga and I had a scan of them saying that Dai Kai weakened Buu a while ago.

South Kaioshin made hims stronger. Then when he absorbed Dai Kioshin, he got alot weaker.

That's what I got from the anime and manga.

[Jin Kazama]

Vegeta didn't take out The Kais...
When he took out everyone The Kais weren't there.
So when he toke them out, He turned in to Kid Buu..

[Sayainpride4]

Originally Posted by Jin Kazama

Vegeta didn't take out The Kais...
When he took out everyone The Kais weren't there.
So when he toke them out, He turned in to Kid Buu..

Fat Buu is "the kais"

[Jin Kazama]

When You read or see the Anime Vegeta and Goku never see The 2 Kaioshins in there.

[Sayainpride4]

Originally Posted by Jin Kazama

When You read or see the Anime Vegeta and Goku never see The 2 Kaioshins in there.

No freakin duh! Because the Kaioshins are in Fat Buu. So when they rip out Fat Buu, Super Buu loses the affect of the Kais. And also loses every last bit of good in him.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Sayainpride4

No freakin duh! Because the Kaioshins are in Fat Buu. So when they rip out Fat Buu, Super Buu loses the affect of the Kais. And also loses every last bit of good in him.

That is only partially correct. He doesn't actually lose all of the goodness in him until Kid Buu spews out Innocent Buu.

[Sayainpride4]

Originally Posted by SS4 Fabien

That is only partially correct. He doesn't actually lose all of the goodness in him until Kid Buu spews out Innocent Buu.

Vegeta says "Lets just try ripping out this fat Buu." That was the only thing that kept him half good. Because the Kais weren't evil. So when they ripped him out, they ripped out the last bit of good in him.


I am kinda lost, cause I just woke up. But what ever. I am gunna go eat some food and try and get fat. Peace out man.

[Fabien]

Kid Buu finds himself unable to attack Mr. Satan due to Fat Buu's friendship. To me, this signifies goodness. An evil person would be able to annihilate his friend without a second thought.

Because of this attachment, Kid Buu spews out Innocent Buu, which is the "Fat Buu" that Vegeta rips out of Super Buu's absorption pod, but never actually removes from Buu's body. After Innocent Buu is released from Kid Buu's body, Kid Buu becomes pure evil.

[Jin Kazama]

They didn't rip out the Kaios cause the kaios are in Fat Buu o.O

And when kid Buu blew up earth Fat Buu was still thre so when they came together Fat Buu connected with Kid Buu, but Kid Buus evil was to much so they stayed as Kid Buu. then Fat Buu left Kid Buu, and Kid Buu became More evil because the good wasn't in him...?

[Mr.Studmuffin]

Originally Posted by Jin Kazama

They didn't rip out the Kaios cause the kaios are in Fat Buu o.O

And when kid Buu blew up earth Fat Buu was still thre so when they came together Fat Buu connected with Kid Buu, but Kid Buus evil was to much so they stayed as Kid Buu. then Fat Buu left Kid Buu, and Kid Buu became More evil because the good wasn't in him...?

Huh?

[Ekco_Star]

I've got a question that possibly Fabien could answer, I think he may know. Ok so once inoocent buu was removed from kid buu, if veegat and goku had gone inside onnocent buu and pulled out the daioshin or whatever his name is, would there be an other kid buu?

[Mr.Studmuffin]

In theory, yes. It should be noted that a number of potential plot holes were created as a result of Kid Buu's reintroduction (through minus absorbtion) back into the Dragonball Z story. The above is but one of those plot holes.

[Ekco_Star]

Ok thanks, I was always wondering that.