CRT VS LCD

[neojesus]

Which is better? Discuss.

[Frogger]

it comes to preference..

personally...every desk i have ever had...has had plenty of room for a CRT..so space is a non issue for me. a True flat CRT to me..has at least the same quality of picture...i feel better even..and when you throw in price..for me its easy. If you don't have to have the 'new, cool thing'...i find CRT is the best..easily..

[RoadKillGrill]

plug in a crt and an lcd

clone image on both monitors

play a game

ALL lcds lag

did i mention price diff? there 5x the price

[SWG_Victim]

CRT because I like the look of them better.

22" CRT ftw

[Atr0p0s]

I have both a CRT and an LCD.
I use them both and I love them (21" Formac Pronitron 21/750 and 23" Apple Cinema Display).
I use the LCD as my primary display, even though it has a bit of a ghosting problem. The CRT is better for playing games, but it's also smaller, not widescreen and is more sensitive for magnetism.

The biggest advantage of the LCD over the CRT is the size/resolution for me (CRT: 1600*1200 @ 85 Hz // LCD: 1920*1200 native resolution). I can watch widescreen movies without the black lines and I can use a bigger FOV in UT. Of course I'ld never use a 17" or 19" normal LCD because it wouldn't have any advantages over the CRT anymore and it just costs a lot more if you buy a decent one.

(Oh yeah, maybe every LCD is better than any CRT if the only thing you're looking for is to save some space on your desk... But that really doesn't matter)

[Logy]

I love the smaller size of LCDs, and their sharpness (for text and such, they're great for work), but even the best ones I've seen I would call barely adequate for gaming.

CRTs blow LCDs away in speed, contrast, and flexibility.

LCDs have a long way to go before they can give you the kind of clarity that CRTs give you with moving images. And if you're not using the native resolution, forget about that sharpness.

The problem is, manufacturers have all stopped making quality CRTs. Sony and Mitsubishi quit making aperture grille tubes, and now all you can buy now are cheap, crappy CRTs, because everyone is enamored with LCDs.

I hope that either a major advancement in LCD tech happens (Supposedly somebody's working on a 120Hz LCD), or a new and better tech comes out (like SED, which keeps getting delayed, and there hasn't been any indications that there are plans for desktop monitors, anyway). Otherwise, when my CRT dies, I'm going to be a sad and cranky guy.

[stephen_wq]

LCD, 8ms is okay for playing games, i had a huge quality boost with upgrading from 17" CRT to 17" CRT, it was like i bought a new gfx card or something.
it also is good for your eyes, CRT hurts my eyes 2hours plus. LCD is like looking at paper.

[Sphinx]

good god, this one AGAIN? millionth time.

LCD's get more and more suited to gaming, but there isnt a chance in the world they will ever be BETTER for it compared to CRT. If you wanna trade playabillity for more deskspace and some slickness, be my guest.

Also completely depends on what kind of player you are, like the competition, play CRT. Like to game for the fun of gaming, doesnt matter. To one 8ms LCD doesnt make a difference, to another it means a loss. Totally dependant on your style. Me for instance, regardless of my motivation in playing, i move my mouse a lot with short swift movements. On LCD that makes it virtually impossible for me.

[Boksha]

The fun part is that even though LCDs don't seem to be ready yet to replace CRTs entirely, barely any CRTs are still in production. I'm glad I already have a monitor I'm happy with. I wouldn't want to be buying a new screen at this time.

[LordJaffa]

I prefer CRTs, mainly for the screen resolutions, but also for the price and unparallelled response times. Also, no dead pixels is a bonus..
good 19"CRT > good 19"LCD

[Boksha]

Originally Posted by LordJaffa

good 19"CRT > good 19"LCD

Or, more importantly, 19" CRT > 19" LCD with the same price tag.

[DimensionSeven]

if u ever consider using photoshop or some photoretuching software, go for the CRT.

[=XM=]

SED > CRT > LCD

Ofc I don't really know for SEDs, but I can't wait for them to come out. The thin form of an LCD with the quality(or better) than CRT.

I wouldn't dream of buying an LCD except if I was really really cramped for space, but they do look cooler than big fat CRTs.

[Imaginos]

Originally Posted by neojesus

Which is better? Discuss.

Why?

And shouldn't you go first?

[lintan]

Light reflects off my CRT and I can't see a freakin' thing, so LCD ftw.

[Frogger]

Originally Posted by Logy

The problem is, manufacturers have all stopped making quality CRTs. Sony and Mitsubishi quit making aperture grille tubes, and now all you can buy now are cheap, crappy CRTs, because everyone is enamored with LCDs.
.

yes...this is the crappy part...

this is what i am using and can still find similar so far...

[[NBS]Flak]

I have both side by side, and I prefer the look of the CRT.

All a matter of preference.

[Bersy]

I am getting tired of hearing people rip on LCD's for gaming. When I got my 19" Hyundai L90D+, my playing immediately improved. Any minor (and believe me it is VERY minor) ghosting stopped bothering me within 24 hours. I don't have any problem tracking action on the screen while moving quickly. Playing in a sunlit room, as someone has mentioned, the LCD is also superior as it reflects less light. The picture itself is one of the brightest out there, I have to keep the brightness at 30-40. So yeah, I really have no complaints. Also, I'd hardly say it was very expensive. It has one dead pixel (which I never notice anyway) and the store I bought it from refunded me roughly 100 US on it.

[Hsoolien]

CRT's have better picture reproduciton hands down, with a higher array of displayable colours and more marked contrast they win hands down (especiall if they are flat eliminating lintans problem)

When i bought my HDTV I had several options. Two types of Projection (LCD and DLP) two types of flat (plasma and LCD), and last CRT. I dropped the 5000$CAD on a 40" SONY Vega (Ok not a true HDTV, it's only HDTV ready). I would have paid more for larger if it was avaialble. The picture was (and still is) better then all the other options. Better colours, better contrasts, oh and 2 degrees short of 180 degee viewing angle


Edit: I should mention I still love my 17" NEC AccuSync70, it's not flat, but I don't have glare in it's room

[Magwa]

Originally Posted by Frogger

it comes to preference..

personally...every desk i have ever had...has had plenty of room for a CRT..so space is a non issue for me. a True flat CRT to me..has at least the same quality of picture...i feel better even..and when you throw in price..for me its easy. If you don't have to have the 'new, cool thing'...i find CRT is the best..easily..

what he just said act like i said it ..

[Sphinx]

Originally Posted by Bersy

I am getting tired of hearing people rip on LCD's for gaming. When I got my 19" Hyundai L90D+, my playing immediately improved. Any minor (and believe me it is VERY minor) ghosting stopped bothering me within 24 hours. I don't have any problem tracking action on the screen while moving quickly. Playing in a sunlit room, as someone has mentioned, the LCD is also superior as it reflects less light. The picture itself is one of the brightest out there, I have to keep the brightness at 30-40. So yeah, I really have no complaints. Also, I'd hardly say it was very expensive. It has one dead pixel (which I never notice anyway) and the store I bought it from refunded me roughly 100 US on it.

gaming is bigger than my little world, and the same goes for you. The fact that you can play however you want with it, doesnt mean everyone else should be able to. seeing other posts from you i can kind of imagine what kind of player you are. And you dont sound like the one that tweaks to push every extreme fps acceleration through his machine. You sound like the player that plays with weaponshow on and default crosshairs or something.
Dont take that as an insult, to each his own, but i can understand why you would be able to play on LCD if thats your style, and it would totally clash with another player on his style. LCD is not unsuited to gaming, dependant on what kind of gamer you are and what you demand out of it. On the other hand, CRT is and will always be superior for gaming, no matter how you look at it.

[napsterlover237]

Originally Posted by Sphinx

gaming is bigger than my little world, and the same goes for you. The fact that you can play however you want with it, doesnt mean everyone else should be able to. seeing other posts from you i can kind of imagine what kind of player you are. And you dont sound like the one that tweaks to push every extreme fps acceleration through his machine. You sound like the player that plays with weaponshow on and default crosshairs or something.
Dont take that as an insult, to each his own, but i can understand why you would be able to play on LCD if thats your style, and it would totally clash with another player on his style. LCD is not unsuited to gaming, dependant on what kind of gamer you are and what you demand out of it. On the other hand, CRT is and will always be superior for gaming, no matter how you look at it.

I think it is too presumptuous to say that CRT's will always be better than LCD's for gaming. Although it is true that LCD's can not match CRT's for gaming performance now, I believe that LCD's will advance to the point where they will perform as well as, maybe even better than the best CRT's.

[fuegerstef]

As long as I can get two nice big CRTs for my new setup everything is fine.

[Bersy]

I'm curious to what kind of posts you've read from me that would give you such an indication. While I hate brightskins, play with a higher sens. than most "pr0" players and such, I am pretty competitive, I would consider myself a top ONS player and in one of the higher skilled clans, but only above average in DM. mostly because I play ONS a heck of a lot more. I use high contrast custom crosshairs. As far as my screen, I am not implying that CRT's could not possibly have advantages, because they do and I've played on some pretty mindblowing ones, but I honestly don't believe this LCD puts me at any kind of disadvantage - in fact it's not only adequate but an above average screen for gaming. Even for competitive players. I am simply saying, an LCD is easily a well-justified purchase, and people shouldn't let themselves be BS'd about how "inferior" they still are. I'd say it would be about the LAST thing you should be concerned with if you had a lapse in your playing.

[theeDEATHMASTER]

my 17" lcd ftw

[Brysamo]

lcd all the way, sharp, more screen in less space, easy on the eyes

plus i'm a laptop guy so without lcd's, i'd be sunk

[Bjossi]

My 15" LCD kicks my old 19" CRT´s ass in all aspects apart from max resolution.

[martinblank]

It depends how much you are willing to spend on the LCD. If price taken out of the equation, I'd have to say LCD. For best price/performance, CRT is best, but if you are willing to lay down a few extra bills for a real LCD, then it would be better.

[Crotale]

I stuck with 19" CRT for a long time because I too bought all the hype about them being far superior to LCDs. But, last fall, my awesome CRT started crapping on its self. So, in my search to find a suitable replacement, I ended up with a new LCD. Let me tell you, after all of my three months of searching, doing research, and doing more searching, I found that the current crop of LCDs are not the laghounds of yore.

At my work, we do professional graphics on PC and SGI workstations/servers. The stuff we display has realistic looking terrain and is somewhere about 20-30 times the triangles you might see in UT2004. Last year, we replaced many of our aging CRTs with LCDs. The difference? The LCDs we picked up have a better color and gradient fill than the CRTs. We noticed the difference right away by putting the two side by side on the same machine. For one thing, most CRTs do not support digital connections, therefore they are susceptible to all of the anomalies known to plague analog video. Hmm, extreme gamers must be okay with that.

As for the LCD on my personal machine at home, I can play longer with less eye strain than I ever could with my CRT. And my old CRT was an awesome display until it started failing. My opinion on this issue is this...do your research. Don't just dismiss one or the other because someone else says that one technology is "far superior" to the other.

[qazxswedc]

I can't tolerate any ghosting, I move the mouse around alot.

If LCD had the res, & refresh, of a high end aperture grill CRT w/o ghosting I'd switch.

crt right now viewsonic p225f