Asexuality

[Minx]

An aspect of human sexuality that's rarely touched on here on CC. I'd like to get a discussion started, but I have no idea how to begin.

There are different definitions, some very inclusive and some very specific and exclusive. Which kind should we settle for?

Is the term a meaningful one? Shush Momo not you

Is asexuality a disorder? Is it something people should be encouraged to seek help for?

What other questions can we ask?

[W2D]

Aexuality is hawtness...now asexuality, hmm!

[Moridin00]

Why can't I play?

[W2D]

Originally Posted by Moridin00

Why can't I play?

BECAUSE!

hijacking minxy's threads-priceless

[Minx]

I knew there was something wrong with the title. This just isn't a good day.

Okay Momo, you can play

[Moridin00]

edit: Ok ok, I'll think on it.

Originally Posted by Minx

An aspect of human sexuality that's rarely touched on here on CC. I'd like to get a discussion started, but I have no idea how to begin.

Perhaps because asexuality is somewhat dull.

Is the term a meaningful one?

No. Rocks are asexual. A human who doesn't enjoy / pursue / require sex is... something else.

Is asexuality a disorder? Is it something people should be encouraged to seek help for?

To you, is asexuality the lack of sexual action taken, or lack of interest in sex?

What other questions can we ask?

Ever met someone asexual?

[Moridin00]

By the way, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy

[Minx]

Originally Posted by Moridin00

To you, is asexuality the lack of sexual action taken, or lack of interest in sex?

I think the definition would have to be similar in nature to a def. of homosexuality, so, no, not the former.

Ever met someone asexual?

I've encountered a few people that call themselves asexual. I didn't do any experiments on them, so I dunno

This might be of some interest: www.asexuality.org (they're obviously going for the inclusive def.)

[Moridin00]

Ok, dictionary time.

a·sex·u·al (-sksh-l)
adj.

1. Having no evident sex or sex organs; sexless.
2. Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction that occurs without the union of male and female gametes, as in binary fission or budding.
3. Lacking interest in or desire for sex.

Hmm, I think those peeps are just emo, not Asexual. Asexuality is the lack of sex, perhaps due to the lack of sex hormones / organs, or similar. Or should be, anyway.

They're probably Involutary Celibates or suffer from Anxiety or a social disorder; or some other emotional complication.

If one lacks interest in sex, it must be considered a biological abnormality, as our sex organs and drives (plus accompanying emotional and spiritual companionship) are amongst the most influential factors in our lives. It could also be considered an emotional abnormality, if we consider the 'standard' expected sexual pattern for a sapien.

edit:

Originally Posted by AVEN link

Identity
Most people on AVEN have been asexual for our entire lives. Just as people will rarely and unexpectedly go from being straight to gay, asexual people will rarely and unexpectedly become sexual or vice versa. Another small minority will think of themselves as asexual for a brief period of time while exploring and questioning their own sexuality.

What rubbish this is. They're avoiding the underlying issue - that there's some emotional reason they feel a lack of interest in sex. They would do well to work on the problem, not the symptom.

[fathorse]

If they were asexual they would be devoid of all sexual physical characteristics as well.

[Minx]

Originally Posted by Moridin00

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I'm wondering why not being sexual is abnormal/pathological. I mean, you don't think those terms apply to homosexuals, paedophiles, zoophiles etc do you?

The few I've heard of that are asexual seem to have normal lives otherwise, and are nice happy people.

[Moridin00]

Its not about 'not having sex', Minx.

Its about 'not comprehending the human sexual paradigm'. That's a biological abnormality for sapiens. (I'm loving this word)

[Minx]

I have to admit I'm still not seeing where you're coming from.

[Moridin00]

Asexuality is not a lack of interest in sex, despite having all the tackle.

It's the opposite of having a sexual identity. If you were asexual, you'd have no need of things like endorphins, pheromones and sex organs.

Goldfish are more sexual than rocks. Rocks are asexual.

[nickdaegg]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual

for more info. More subject orientated than Momo's link.

I'll throw my view into the idea stew later.

[Moridin00]

I linked through to Involuntary Celibacy from Asexuality. I assume, nowadays, that people check relevant Wiki links by default.

Will be interesting to hear your take on it.

[nickdaegg]

You may find this of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale Where do you rate yourself momo?

I feel that celibacy by choice is pointless. You want what you can't have. And what's so wrong with sex anyway?

I'm still yet to read that wiki article I posted.

[Moridin00]

Yes the Kinsey scale is interesting reading, albeit a little outdated. Thats not necessarily a bad thing though.

I reckon I'd be about 4 or 5; its hard to say, objectively. You?

I feel that celibacy by choice is pointless. You want what you can't have.

I chose celibacy for a while (a period during which my friends learned my true temper ). I couldn't stop flirting and carrying on with hotties so I chose celibacy to clear my head. "You want what you can't have".

[nickdaegg]

Is there a more uptodate system then? And not some kind of 'queerometer' where you just put your name in and it gives you a random number. I had enough of that 'Love calculator' in year 4 IT, thanks.

Hmm, I don't know. Clearly it is difficult to do objectively yourself, and who would know your tendancies enough to give you a rating?

[The Holy One]

I'm an asexual and have been for 18 years now...

It's not that i don't like sex but casual sex i feel is meaningless and i can't stand being in a relationship so there you have it, easy ehhh?

[Timothy2035]

besides there are lots of fur coats that can be had.

[The Holy One]

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

besides there are lots of fur coats that can be had.

Fur fetish! Well why not.

[Timothy2035]

Originally Posted by Minx

Okay Momo, you can play

NO he can't. I forbid it.

Originally Posted by Holy One

Fur fetish! Well why not.

Yes and the fur can come in different cool cat colors too.

[The Holy One]

Originally Posted by Timothy2035

Yes and the fur can come in different cool cat colors too.

I love the man fur best, it's a little thin but it's a nice pink and very soft to the touch.

[littlelolligagged]

Originally Posted by The Holy One

I'm an asexual and have been for 18 years now...

It's not that i don't like sex but casual sex i feel is meaningless and i can't stand being in a relationship so there you have it, easy ehhh?

Why does it have to mean something? Why can't a good time be had by all, and that be all the point to it?

[The Holy One]

Originally Posted by littlelolligagged

Why does it have to mean something? Why can't a good time be had by all, and that be all the point to it?

I hate the labeling of everything and just don't like people that much.

A good time for me is when no one calls for a month...

[littlelolligagged]

Originally Posted by The Holy One

I hate the labeling of everything and just don't like people that much.

A good time for me is when no one calls for a month...

Ahh, well ... whatever makes you happy.

[GGT]

Geezo. Since I actually find Maslow a keen guy, with on-target concepts of human need, I'd have to say that (unless a person is devoid of sexual organs or a functioning brain) asexuality is a medical pathology. Possibly related to hormonal imbalance, or emotional turmoil, or a combination of both?

All we have to do is look at healthy young children who explore their genitalia, and feel pleasure, to know that it's "normal" to do so. Adolescents become "other aware" as part of that process. Then it becomes, I don't know, either physiological or social or psychological, to turn that part "off", and deny one's self that part of......being human......and having those physical needs.

The only true asexuals I can think of are nemotodes or bacteria/virii, or something non-human. Not the same thing as mammalian celibacy or impotence. Or am I being pedantic?

[Moridin00]

Originally Posted by The Holy One

I'm an asexual and have been for 18 years now...

It's not that i don't like sex but casual sex i feel is meaningless and i can't stand being in a relationship so there you have it, easy ehhh?

If you ********** you're Sexual.

Not Asexual.

[nickdaegg]

Self-sexual? Or is there a proper term?