Goodbye Rock 'n' Roller Coaster Avec AEROSMITH at Walt Disney Studios (April Fool's)

[Sil1994]

No, the Coaster will not close and I hope this is not something related to "April 1st". Next year Aerosmith will leave Paris and the coaster will now be ride listening to the French singer Johnny Hallyday. Also there are some other differences outside and inside the building but the track layout will remain the same.

More info here: http://www.photosmagiques.com/wdsfan...VupkpFFINNNLrb

For me it's not a good idea. Aerosmith's contract with Disney is ending but I think that a french singer will only be good for French visitors. I mean... just like me, there are so many Disney fans (and RNRC fans) that doesn't even know Johnny Hallyday. After watching the video (in that link) I felt that it was a pretty good soundtrack for a coaster, but not for an "internacional" coaster like RNRC. Only my opinion, but I think that I'm not going to ride RNRC so many times like I ride last time, the next time I go to WDS.

What do you think of it?


Edit: April Fool's...

[TheSkipper]

I don't decide on what coaster to ride because of music or theme. How juvenile. If you are a coaster rider you ride it because it's there.

Oh no, they changed 2 stars on the ceiling of Space Mountain!! I refuse to ride!!
OMG, look at that rock, it's like totally out of place, I am not going on Big Thunder EVER again!!

Puhleeeeseesssssssee......

[SnooSnoo]

What Skipper said.

[Sil1994]

I'm not going to stop ridding RNRC but instead of ride 6 or 7 times looking for a different soundtrack, I'm only going to ride 1 or 2 times

[ljconnolly1]

^^ You to are cruel. This is Aerosmith here! My favourite band. I mean France just aren't the country for singing. I've never heard of this other one. I'm going to move to the WDW parks instead. I mean it won't be as popuar now if it's in French. It just doesn't work. I mean put your hand up if you've heard of this singer before.

[tigerlemurguy]

Bit of a overeaction skips... All he was saying was the change didnt seem too great and i have to agree i love rock n roller coaster as it is and this change seems a little odd but i wont judge until i have ridden it!

[TheSkipper]

My point is, what music is playing or what the theme may be are incidental. The track and the ride do NOT change. Deciding on whether or not to ride based on the music sounds like an excuse to not have to say, ", a reason to cut back because it's too intense".
Sure, I am a music fan, a fan of many things, But as a COASTER rider, the ride's the thing.
What you may think is cruel is not that at all, but reality. Things change. If they removed the entire coaster, then moan and whine.

[ljconnolly1]

^ I see the point. This guy isn't really singing rock though. They should change the name

[Alpengeist]

I don't know about anyone else, but changing a theme on a ride at a Theme Park can be a big deal. Will it be with this ride, who knows till we see the final product.

Now I agree with Skipper when some make a big deal about a rock being moved or a couple of stars changed. That's a little much IMO. But when a ride is themed to rock n' roll, the artist it's themed to is a bigger deal than say retheming Superman to Bizarro IMO.

[RedRevRage]

I prefer a lot of rides over others because they have better theming.

If this ride is synced to the music or themed around it then it's a big part of the ride and a reason to like it more or less when it changes.

[TheSkipper]

Let me ask those who think it's a big deal this:
Are you telling me you spend all the time and money to go to a park and wait, and everything else JUSt because a certain band's music is used? Is that the ONLY place yoou can hear their music? No. Can you ride the coaster anytime, anyplace? No. So, I go for the ride, NOT the theme. I also said, theme and music certainly (in some cases) enhance it, but it's NOT the be all and end all of why I decide to ride or not.
As for themeing, here's an example. I rode X files on it's premiere at King's Dominion. Since then I am not sure if the name/theme has changed, OR if it even still exists. The entire themeing is/was in the queue and return stations. The rest of the ride was total darkness, except for flashing lights, and speed precluded being able to "see" any themeing that may have even been considered.

[JayAC.]

Can I just say that this is VERY likely to be an April Fool.

[ljconnolly1]

^ i hope so

[TheSkipper]

Could be, the site link is a gossip column for EMO stressed Disneyites after all. However, prank or not, I feel that all the fuss I countered with is valid.

[RedRevRage]

Yeah, it's stupid to say he'll never ride it but atmosphere is created on a ride like that with the music.

Loads of rides have music that add to the experience but this ride is based completely around it...

It makes a difference for sure and the ride may be worse because of it. Take Nemesis without the theming...it's a B&M invert, there's loads of them. Give it the extensive theming and it's one of the best...

Rock and rollercoaster without the music is just a rollercoaster...and you can go anywhere for a standard rollercoaster.

[TheSkipper]

no coaster is standard, if they weee, they would all be the same and there'd be no reason to go to anymore than one local park.

So, define a "standard" coaster.

[Sil1994]

I hope it is a April Fool but it's too strange that Travel Channel had already made a vid about it.
Oh and I found another site talking about this and some "strange" boxes arived to WDS this weekend and in one of them we can read "Project RNRC Johnny".

So, let's wait to see.

[TheSkipper]

Those were on the same site you linked in the original post.

[RedRevRage]

Originally Posted by TheSkipper

no coaster is standard, if they weee, they would all be the same and there'd be no reason to go to anymore than one local park.

So, define a "standard" coaster.

There are plenty of "off the shelf" rollercoasters. Look at Six flags, loads of them are identical copies of each other.

Just a series of elements, nothing unique about them. Not bad, but nothing special either...

[TheSkipper]

I'll grant that, but each park also has some "signature" ones. Paramount, likewise. However, Disney doesn't work that way.
Corporate parks will use a standard design, because it costs less. Other unique coaasters can include Hulk and Dueling Dragons at I O A.
RNRC is also a cookie cutter, because the track is the same ate each park. Now, changing the theme makes it unique to a particular park.

[RedRevRage]

True, but if the theme (in this case the song) makes it worse then I can understand complaining...

I don't actually care that much, I don't want to go to Disney. But I can see his point is all...

[TheSkipper]

AHA! Now we are to the heart of the whole issue.
HOW does one dtermine it makes it worse BEFROE the ride is even re-done. Before it is even tried? So, in this case his whole point is totally invalid.

[Krakatoa_Coo]

Originally Posted by Sil1994

For me it's not a good idea. Aerosmith's contract with Disney is ending but I think that a french singer will only be good for French visitors.

What do you think of it?

Aerosmith's contract is ending!!??!?!?! that means the RNRC in Florida might be changed to another band! Maybe ACDC (that fine), Pink Floyd (even better), or Metallica (now thats crazy).

[RedRevRage]

Originally Posted by TheSkipper

AHA! Now we are to the heart of the whole issue.
HOW does one dtermine it makes it worse BEFROE the ride is even re-done. Before it is even tried? So, in this case his whole point is totally invalid.

If it's a crappy song it won't be better. Simple.

You couldn't say it about another ride though.

[JayAC.]

Can I just say that Disney parks are all about the themed experiences - not the rides. The rides are a part of it, yes, but the theming is way more important.

I, and many others, appreciate the level of detail that goes into Disney attractions. When I go to a Disney park, I'm not looking for thrills. I just want to have a good time and soak up the atmosphere and the immersive environments that are to offer.

Rock 'n' Roller Coaster (Paris) is my favourite attraction at any Disney park. The coaster itself, I'll admit, is no more than average. But the story, the 350 multicoloured lights, the darkness, the music, the AWESOME launch, the Aerosmith theme, the smokes machines (when working) - they all add up to make what is in my opinion the best ride in the world.

I would be heartbroken if it really did ever change dramatically like this.

Originally Posted by Sil1994

I hope it is a April Fool but it's too strange that Travel Channel had already made a vid about it.
Oh and I found another site talking about this and some "strange" boxes arived to WDS this weekend and in one of them we can read "Project RNRC Johnny".

So, let's wait to see.

There is such thing as Photoshopping. And do you really think Disney would release concept art that looks so crap?

And not only that, but they released all of this on April Fools' day!

[Sil1994]

Originally Posted by JayAC.

Can I just say that Disney parks are all about the themed experiences - not the rides. The rides are a part of it, yes, but the theming is way more important.

I, and many others, appreciate the level of detail that goes into Disney attractions. When I go to a Disney park, I'm not looking for thrills. I just want to have a good time and soak up the atmosphere and the immersive environments that are to offer.

Rock 'n' Roller Coaster (Paris) is my favourite attraction at any Disney park. The coaster itself, I'll admit, is no more than average. But the story, the 350 multicoloured lights, the darkness, the music, the AWESOME launch, the Aerosmith theme, the smokes machines (when working) - they all add up to make what is in my opinion the best ride in the world.

I would be heartbroken if it really did ever change dramatically like this.



There is such thing as Photoshopping. And do you really think Disney would release concept art that looks so crap?

And not only that, but they released all of this on April Fools' day!

The Travel Channel video was posted yesterday on Dailymotion, wich means that it was on TV before April Fool's Day. The concept art, yes, it looks very crap!

BTW I totally agree with you about the theming ang the thrilling on Disney Parks.

[Knux897]

Originally Posted by TheSkipper

AHA! Now we are to the heart of the whole issue.
HOW does one dtermine it makes it worse BEFROE the ride is even re-done. Before it is even tried? So, in this case his whole point is totally invalid.

To be honest, if anyone is making a big deal about this, it's you. He was expressing his dislike for this change, and you come in trying to force his opinion to your liking. I think it is a very valid point. Lets imagine the coaster is outside, not at a Disney park, and has no theming. Ok sure you may like it, but when you put all that stuff back in, it's a totally different experience. The WHOLE ride is based off this band, and putting a new artist in will make it drastically different. The lights, the music of course, and everything that goes into play will be syncronoized to such an opposite level, it will be clearly noticable. It will change what the ride originated as. It's like taking Jurassic Park at IOA, and replacing the theming with Splash Mountain.

[RangerStudios]

Originally Posted by Krakatoa_Coo

Aerosmith's contract is ending!!??!?!?! that means the RNRC in Florida might be changed to another band! Maybe ACDC (that fine), Pink Floyd (even better), or Metallica (now thats crazy).

Disney and Metallica what a combination, one is family motivated while the other is singing about blowing your brains out, literally. Will we get our first cussing Disney attraction. lol I think not.

[TheSkipper]

Originally Posted by Knux897

To be honest, if anyone is making a big deal about this, it's you. He was expressing his dislike for this change, and you come in trying to force his opinion to your liking.

I don't know where you get that from. He stated his opinion, and I stated mine, however, I backed up my opinion with my reasons. In no way am I trying to force his opinion to mine. We're all entitled to that, and he has had plenty of opportunity to back up his. The point is, if it can't be ridden yet, how can anyone know it will be bad or not? I'd say, it created an excellent point/counterpoint discussion. What if.....
The whole theme had been something else from the beginning? Have to remember, that the place the ride originated (MGM) ws based on the whole entertainment, movie and concert scene of Hollywood.

[Westcot]

Originally Posted by TheSkipper

I don't know where you get that from. He stated his opinion, and I stated mine, however, I backed up my opinion with my reasons.

I don't wish to argue, but you did come across as stating them as a fact. I'm not seeing any "IMO's" in there.

Originally Posted by TheSkipper

I don't decide on what coaster to ride because of music or theme. How juvenile. If you are a coaster rider you ride it because it's there.

Oh no, they changed 2 stars on the ceiling of Space Mountain!! I refuse to ride!!
OMG, look at that rock, it's like totally out of place, I am not going on Big Thunder EVER again!!

Puhleeeeseesssssssee......

I'm actually surprised that that post came from you, Skipper. Looks like a post that you'd frown upon if it were made by another member.

I'm not saying that you're not allowed to state your opinion, I just think that you're coming across as a bit... rude?